Climate Leviathan with Joel Wainwright and Geoff Mann

A

podcast

URL

https://www.upstreampodcast.org/conversations

(Hmm, AntennaPod didn't seem to pick up timestamps when I shared for some reason.)

• The political consequences of climate collapse.
• Climate Behemoth sounds a bit like climate sadism.
• Climate Leviathan sounds a bit like the Ministry for the Future in The Ministry for the Future.
• Framing it as Anthropocene suggests that all of humanity is to blame. But it is primarily a specific part of humanity that is to blame - capitalism.
• New form of climate denialism.
• A large number who may seem reformist are not necessarily. They do not oppose radical action. When the wind changes, then they will be happy to participate. Kind of a social tipping point?
• The hegemony of liberalism and individualism extinguishes the imagination for collective action and structural change.
• Bigs up Andreas Malm but critiques some of How to Blow Up a Pipeline.
• Good discussion on problems of eco-terrorism, contrasts with necessity of eco-socialist organising.
• Acknowledges that sadly Social change has never come without violence. But we must think how can we bring about change while minimising violence as much as possible. When bringing change we must minimise violence.
• Judi Bari.
• The Monkey Wrench Gang