Ecosocialism and the ecological crisis

A

podcast

URL

https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/victors-children/ep-22-ecosocialism-and-the-wYZ69c7BjEK/

Good summary of a variety of points related to ecosocialism. Useful on some detail on degrowth and Green New Deal as tendencies within ecosocialism, where they may disagree and where they have overlaps.

• 00:03:30 Why ecosocialism? Why not just socialism?
• 00:14:31 Degrowth or not. Nuclear or not.
• 00:16:08 Degrowth very roughly anarchist, local based approaches. GND roughly more state based. [Really?]
• 00:18:59 They're not completely separate camps. GND is a tool. Degrowth is an orientation.
• Rosa Luxemburg, André Gorz, non-reformist reforms
• 00:22:49 GND is palpable. You can see changes it is doing.
• 00:27:09 Lots of camps within degrowth. But for the speaker, degrowth is absolutely not about austerity. It's about buen vivir.
• 00:29:46 Degrowth was originally an academic movement but it is broadening out.
• Degrowth would advocate using existing technologies. (Similar to what Medina was suggesting in some sense?)
• Thea Riofrancos on supply chains
• ~00:49:50 Tie degrowth to a slowing of pace of life plus improvements. It's not austerity. Less flights, but invest in high speed rail. Less work, longer holidays, less need to fly. Etc.
• ~01:23:38 Problems with nuclear energy. Storage. Meltdowns. War. Time and budget to deploy!
• ~01:27:06 solar radiation management: if we got hooked on it, then something stops it for some reason - rebound effect catastrophical