- Ray Ison
- Systems thinking
Interview based around the book Systems Practice: How to Act.
The juggler isophor for applying systems thinking.
Despite it being about practice, felt pretty philosophical to me - didn't grasp it all on this first pass.
Makes a distinction between the terms systemic and systematic. If I recall correctly, systemic being more about the relationships, and systematic being… I forgot. But Ray Ison's preference was for the systemic.